GOLF INSTRUCTION: How to Get More Distance: Dustin Johnson vs. Tiger Woods

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1. Mike .did u seriously just compare Ben hogan to Dustin Johnson??? I dont
   think two swings can get more opposite….Hogan was flat, opened the club
   face as much as possible with a super weak grip and then released the holy
   heck out of it as hard as he could..Dustin swings very upright, with a very
   shut face, and holds onto the release as much as possible through impact..?

2. Alan Le, and then

   Duval was very much a shut player yes..So was Tiger until he went to
   Haney..Jack however, was NOT a open , close player…Jack hooded it pretty
   good on the way back without much wrist set early on and then held onto it
   pretty good through impact. His face stayed very square for a long
   time..hence why he was such a great driver..?

3. It’s also worth noting that shut faced players can be successful. David
   Duval had a lot of success with it back in the early 2000s. It’s also not
   as hard to “time” an open to closed action as people think. Jack Nicklaus
   was open to closed and he was the greatest of all time. There’s no
   conscious rotation of the left wrist. Your left side just posts up and your
   right hand pushes the club through. The left wrist stays fluid and acts
   like a ball joint. It’s as consistent as your ball position

4. Clay. Notice at impact from the down the line view. You’ll notice with
   Tiger the shaft is in line with the right forearm and with Dustin it’s in
   line with the left arm. Can you comment on these two methods of striking
   the ball?

5. It is possible to play good golf with either release. You will need a lot
   of speed from the body, which is tougher for older golfers if you are using
   the body to square the club. With a roll type release you can let
   centrifugal force square the face under the left shoulder through impact.
   In general the lower body only equates to around 10% of your clubhead
   speed. Check out the video “How to Increase Clubhead Speed in Golf”. Good
   Luck with your game! ~Clay Ballard

6. Tiger’s swing require superb timing to square the clubface on impact and
   flip the wrist. DJ uses his body to square his clubface, no flipping, so he
   can go as hard as he wants. Just look up Ben Hogan to learn how to swing
   this way, its far more consistent and much easier to swing. Player, Trevino
   and all the vintage classic player swing this way. Crazy lower body
   movement to generate fast clubhead speed.

7. I agree. I mentioned that you will have to be either tall, strong, or fast.
   Rory is very strong and fast also. He is a good example of how you can
   rotate your hips aggressively (and then decelerate aggressively) to
   generate speed. The disadvantage of this, is that as he gets older, and
   slower, it will be difficult to generate speed this way. Much easier to use
   leverage and to let the club release. John Huston (longest driver on senior
   tour by 10 yards) is a great example of this. ~Clay Ballard

8. A strong grip closes the face. So if you let your hands release naturally
   the face will be too closed and you will hook. So it you have a strong grip
   you have to hold off the release of the hands. Be sure to watch the free
   grip video in the link. Good Luck!!~Clay Ballard

9. I spoke with ernie els personally and asked him how he has hit the ball so
   far and consistent throughout his career. Im sorry chuck, but the old world
   #1 completely disagrees. The way to hit the ball long for a long period of
   time is all in shoulder turn and keeping relaxed hands. The lag will come
   naturally from your shoulder turn and relaxed muscles, but increased
   shoulder turn allows erie els to still crush the ball at an old age. This
   is also seen in freddie couples’s swing.

10. what can I do if I want to watch only one premium videos?

11. You don’t have to be tall to get good clubhead speed. Rory McIlroy is a
    good example. He is only 5’8″ or 5’9″ and he mashes the ball out there. If
    you look at him at impact, his hips are very open and his shoulders are
    open too. He has a lot of rotation and isn’t a big guy.

12. Nice job…however at impact tiger might be trying to hit a pull fade and
    dj a push draw which would explain the different release styles…

13. Thanks GolfJuice!! ~Clay Ballard

14. A little sloppy. Should have resized Tiger’s swing for a better comparison.

15. I would respectfully disagree. I wouldn’t recommend creating rotation, but
    only letting the hands rotate freely. Henrick Stenson, Ken Duke, Mark
    Wilson, Tim Clark, and Jerry Kelly (#1-5 in driving accuracy on the PGA
    Tour) all use the roll release. Henrick Stenson does this while producing
    119mph of clubhead speed at the same time! Good luck with your game
    NYgolfer. ~Clay Ballard.

16. I will take this into consideration on the next video, thanks. ~Clay Ballard

17. what I meant was what can I do if I want to watch the premium videos that
    free members want to watch more than once?

18. Thanks Asher Ingber! You can watch other videos of the two releasing the
    club, and you will see the same motions. ~Clay Ballard

19. “Rolling the hands over” through impact (utilizing the #3 accumulator per
    The Golfing Machine) does create additional power but it requires timing
    the roll and that can be problematic , ESPECIALLY under pressure. To
    eliminate this “timing” issue many players use what can be called a
    “shutfaced method” or more accurately a “square to the arc” method. Also in
    the past called the “square to square ” method.

20. Ben Hogan,who would open the clubface (cup the left wrist) on the backswing
    would almost immediately on the downswing close the clubface (bow or as he
    called it “supinate”) the left wrist and then try to hold the “bow” through
    impact.He said that he wanted the feeling that that the right hand did “NOT
    roll over the left” through impact.Impact is where the rubber meets the
    road and Hogan just got there differently than a shut faced player, who
    keeps the blade shut (square to the arc) from startup

21. If I use a strong grip, particularly with the right hand I can’t turn the
    club over and can barely even make contact. With a more neutral grip
    everything seems to flow better. Isn’t the strong grip supposed to HELP
    close the face? I think that I’m experience what you describe in this
    video, but it’s still a bit confusing.

22. I would bet Greame Mcdowell is a lot more athletic than he looks. I
    wouldn’t be surprised if he had a pretty good fastball!! He also does many
    other good motions. His sequencing (transferring energy from his body to
    his arms is very good) and he has good lag and release. Graeme also isn’t
    very long. Only 110 mph clubhead speed. You can find that kind of clubhead
    speed at any course across the world. He wins majors with solid ball
    striking and a great short game. He is very solid! ~Clay Ballard

23. great video, id take tigers swing every day lol no brainer

24. You receive about 30 free videos as a free member. If you would like to
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    reviews per month and access to the forum where you can interact with
    rotary swing certified instructors. See you soon on the site! ~Clay Ballard

25. This is Clay, from the video. I would absolutely agree with him “feeling”
    those two things. We recommend on the site to keep very relaxed arms in
    order to get great lag in the downswing. If your hands get tight, the club
    will slow down and you will cast. I would also agree with the shoulder turn
    comment. Without a great shoulder turn it will be very difficult to get
    speed. I would add to these two keys, good sequencing, a good release, and
    throwing the right arm as top power keys! ~Clay Ballard

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