This is fundamentally wrong . The right shoulder is the source of the
initiating force that starts the downswing and creates the power in the
golf swing.. It is not that the right shoulder slows down. It is, rather
that the flexed forearm is slung out VERY FAST due to centrifugal force
produced and the arms
go even FASTER than the right shoulder. If you slow down the right shoulder
you will hit a half shot and your follow thru will be curtailed. This is
not a bad technique but not one to maximize distance. You do not have to
try release your right forearm. The driving right shoulder propels the
right shoulder to release. If you slow down your right shoulder and
concentrate on releasing your right forearm this will reduce club head
speed not increase it. You will hit a half shot. You have to free wheel
thru the ball with your arms relaxed using the power of the right shoulder
as the central driving force. Try swinging the club without rotating
the right shoulder behind your right ear, keeping it in the address
position. This will produce a nice chip shot at best,.
Notice how far behind their head the power hitters retract their right
shoulder in the backswing. They do this to
place the right shoulder “cocked back” like pulling on a bowstring in
archery create a position of power. This is the secret to
distance. Hunter Mahan talks about this right shoulder drive in his keys
to good driving. Of course the right shoulder must move down not out.
Perhaps Mr. Ballard is trying to say something about this.?
Hi Clay, is there a real need to strengthen our right arm and wrist so we
can fire it more? I saw Jamie S. doing some dumbbell training with his
wrist.?
Just post the full video on YouTube. Hate having to watch half and go
somewhere else. ?
Bogus information spread by stalling and deception. Why not quit all the
prospecting and BS, and show the tips.?
This is somewhat of a confusing concept, and you started hitting on the
important parts at the end. This isn’t all that complicated so im not
going to use fancy words like our friend chris tyler here. The TLDR
version is this: Look at the left shoulder of every good golfer through
impact. It is maintaining the speed that peaked just after the club gets
vertical on the downswing (which pulls arms and hands into the release
position). At release, the relationship between the right shoulder and the
left shoulder changes to accommodate the extension of the right arm, but
this does not mean that the upper body doesn’t have a feeling moving fast
through impact or that the right shoulder is slowing down. The right
shoulder is just reacting to the release towards the ball powered by the
right side and extension of the right arm and rolling of the right wrist.
Theres a reason the examples shown in the video use the FO view instead of
the DTL view. That doesn’t mean that people should be consciously thinking
of rotating their right shoulder through impact, as doing so may give you
problems releasing in a powerful manner with accuracy, but it also doesn’t
mean they should be thinking about consciously slowing down their shoulder
as that could also lead to a loss of power, poor hand position through
impact, and a number of other bad things.
Believe it or not everything is connected in the downswing. Almost
everything is a result of two important things, the first of which is the
sequence of lower body accelerating pulling the torso into motion, torso
the accelerating pulling the shoulders, the shoulders accelerating pulling
the arms, and the arms pulling the club. Second important thing is your
arm positions, left arm needing to stay straight and the right arm needing
to stay connected and tucked until the last moment possible.
Left side of your lower body starts getting separation, which initiates the
right side of the lower body, which initiates the left side of the torso
which initiates the the right side of the torso which initiates the left
shoulder, which initiates the right shoulder, which initiates the left arm,
which pulls the left hand which pulls the club head. The right arm gets
pulled by the club as it should be almost entirely passive until the
absolute last possible moment. The right arm and right shoulder shouldn’t
even enter into the equation at all up until the release point.
When you get to release point is when everything happens with right side of
the upper body. Your right side needs to kick into action to rotate the
club 90 degrees to make contact with the ball. Its not really responsible
for all 90 degrees, and it doesn’t even get to 90 degrees till well after
impact, but from the release point thats basically how far it needs to go.
Your arms are connected to your shoulder, so what you do with one is going
to effect the other. If you are starting from a good hand position on
release, the right elbow needs to go from completely tucked in and
connected to the torso (forming an extremely strong V between your upper
arm and forearm), to fully extended very shortly after impact. And this is
the key. That motion during that extremely small window of time does
require a change of rotation in your shoulder in order for your right arm
to extend while keeping your hands moving forward as they release on a good
plane. From the start of the backswing to the release it feels like it is
rotating with the left shoulder around the plane towards the target. At
the moment of release the right shoulder is actually straying off that
plane slightly moving more towards the ball rather than down the target
line while the left shoulder is continuing on the rotational plane away
from the ball. Instead of moving along the target line, for the
approximately 1/3 of a second, possibly less for the best in the world, the
right shoulder from a front on view can appear to be slowing down
significantly when really it is just changing its movement ever so slightly
for an extremely brief amount of time. Well guess what… when you look at
the down the line view the shoulder still appears to be moving quite fast.
But what hes trying to say in the video is mostly accurate. If you
consciously think about rotating your shoulders, you will rotate them too
much along the shoulder plane towards the target and not enough to the ball
assisting with the release of the club.
The shoulder movement should not be conscious unless its something that
isn’t happening naturally. But the slowing of the shoulder should also not
be conscious for reasons you stated. To think about slowing the shoulder
at release is a near impossible task, as you need to time it at the exact
right moment. if you time it too early, you will lose power from an early
release. If you time it late, the clubhead will never close in time and
you will have some sort of push / fade / slice. Theres probably a billion
other things that can go wrong when you start consciously thinking about
your shoulders at release point instead of how you are releasing with your
right arm and right hand to create a good path to the ball and square club
face. Thinking about shoulder rotation needs to before the release point,
after the hips, and after the torso.?
I’m not sure but ,if anyone else needs to find out about improve your golf
swing try Barkola Amazing Golf Blueprint (do a google search ) ? Ive heard
some awesome things about it and my mate got great success with it. ?
Surely the slowing of the right shoulder is a reaction to a correct swing
not an action. You think these guys are thinking about the exact amount
their left shoulder needs to slow down? Cant be can it.?
Hi Clay, I tend to HOOK the ball and never really compress the ball. I
tend to sweep the ball. How do I know when I’m doing the lag drills
correctly? What’s the indicators that states I’m on the right path? ?
hi, i got this problem where when im aout to hit the ball i push my hips
forward and affects the swing. please help me solve this! :)?
How do you explain this video of Hogan in relation to the idea “releasing
the right arm and stalling the right shoulder” Ben Hogan?
Good stuff Clay, but do I note you haven’t rotated the hips much when you
emphasize the shoulder action? Are you coming around a bit? No pun
intended Cheers.?
When did bubba watson become right handed?
There are two things that I would look out for when trying to avoid a hook.
1. It is very difficult to hook unless your path is to the right. With a
path of 10* to the right and a square face, you will hook the ball
severely. With a square path and the same square face, the ball will fly
dead straight. So with a similar amount of release you can have a straight
shot or a hook. 2. A strong grip. If your grip is too strong any amount of
release will cause a hook. I hope this helps. ~Clay Ballard
Thanks gabriele salvadori!! ~Clay Ballard
Thank you! I appreciate that! ~Clay Ballard
Best Tip On Youtube!
great
The only danger in releasing is hooking the ball.
The reverse Bubba Watson is a trip.
thanks Chunk
After watching this video i went to the range and practiced this technique
and then played 18. You really helped my swing and full game! As someone
never having any practice this instructional was awesome! SUBSCRIBED!!!!
This is fundamentally wrong . The right shoulder is the source of the
initiating force that starts the downswing and creates the power in the
golf swing.. It is not that the right shoulder slows down. It is, rather
that the flexed forearm is slung out VERY FAST due to centrifugal force
produced and the arms
go even FASTER than the right shoulder. If you slow down the right shoulder
you will hit a half shot and your follow thru will be curtailed. This is
not a bad technique but not one to maximize distance. You do not have to
try release your right forearm. The driving right shoulder propels the
right shoulder to release. If you slow down your right shoulder and
concentrate on releasing your right forearm this will reduce club head
speed not increase it. You will hit a half shot. You have to free wheel
thru the ball with your arms relaxed using the power of the right shoulder
as the central driving force. Try swinging the club without rotating
the right shoulder behind your right ear, keeping it in the address
position. This will produce a nice chip shot at best,.
Notice how far behind their head the power hitters retract their right
shoulder in the backswing. They do this to
place the right shoulder “cocked back” like pulling on a bowstring in
archery create a position of power. This is the secret to
distance. Hunter Mahan talks about this right shoulder drive in his keys
to good driving. Of course the right shoulder must move down not out.
Perhaps Mr. Ballard is trying to say something about this.?
Hi Clay, is there a real need to strengthen our right arm and wrist so we
can fire it more? I saw Jamie S. doing some dumbbell training with his
wrist.?
Just post the full video on YouTube. Hate having to watch half and go
somewhere else. ?
Bogus information spread by stalling and deception. Why not quit all the
prospecting and BS, and show the tips.?
This is somewhat of a confusing concept, and you started hitting on the
important parts at the end. This isn’t all that complicated so im not
going to use fancy words like our friend chris tyler here. The TLDR
version is this: Look at the left shoulder of every good golfer through
impact. It is maintaining the speed that peaked just after the club gets
vertical on the downswing (which pulls arms and hands into the release
position). At release, the relationship between the right shoulder and the
left shoulder changes to accommodate the extension of the right arm, but
this does not mean that the upper body doesn’t have a feeling moving fast
through impact or that the right shoulder is slowing down. The right
shoulder is just reacting to the release towards the ball powered by the
right side and extension of the right arm and rolling of the right wrist.
Theres a reason the examples shown in the video use the FO view instead of
the DTL view. That doesn’t mean that people should be consciously thinking
of rotating their right shoulder through impact, as doing so may give you
problems releasing in a powerful manner with accuracy, but it also doesn’t
mean they should be thinking about consciously slowing down their shoulder
as that could also lead to a loss of power, poor hand position through
impact, and a number of other bad things.
Believe it or not everything is connected in the downswing. Almost
everything is a result of two important things, the first of which is the
sequence of lower body accelerating pulling the torso into motion, torso
the accelerating pulling the shoulders, the shoulders accelerating pulling
the arms, and the arms pulling the club. Second important thing is your
arm positions, left arm needing to stay straight and the right arm needing
to stay connected and tucked until the last moment possible.
Left side of your lower body starts getting separation, which initiates the
right side of the lower body, which initiates the left side of the torso
which initiates the the right side of the torso which initiates the left
shoulder, which initiates the right shoulder, which initiates the left arm,
which pulls the left hand which pulls the club head. The right arm gets
pulled by the club as it should be almost entirely passive until the
absolute last possible moment. The right arm and right shoulder shouldn’t
even enter into the equation at all up until the release point.
When you get to release point is when everything happens with right side of
the upper body. Your right side needs to kick into action to rotate the
club 90 degrees to make contact with the ball. Its not really responsible
for all 90 degrees, and it doesn’t even get to 90 degrees till well after
impact, but from the release point thats basically how far it needs to go.
Your arms are connected to your shoulder, so what you do with one is going
to effect the other. If you are starting from a good hand position on
release, the right elbow needs to go from completely tucked in and
connected to the torso (forming an extremely strong V between your upper
arm and forearm), to fully extended very shortly after impact. And this is
the key. That motion during that extremely small window of time does
require a change of rotation in your shoulder in order for your right arm
to extend while keeping your hands moving forward as they release on a good
plane. From the start of the backswing to the release it feels like it is
rotating with the left shoulder around the plane towards the target. At
the moment of release the right shoulder is actually straying off that
plane slightly moving more towards the ball rather than down the target
line while the left shoulder is continuing on the rotational plane away
from the ball. Instead of moving along the target line, for the
approximately 1/3 of a second, possibly less for the best in the world, the
right shoulder from a front on view can appear to be slowing down
significantly when really it is just changing its movement ever so slightly
for an extremely brief amount of time. Well guess what… when you look at
the down the line view the shoulder still appears to be moving quite fast.
But what hes trying to say in the video is mostly accurate. If you
consciously think about rotating your shoulders, you will rotate them too
much along the shoulder plane towards the target and not enough to the ball
assisting with the release of the club.
The shoulder movement should not be conscious unless its something that
isn’t happening naturally. But the slowing of the shoulder should also not
be conscious for reasons you stated. To think about slowing the shoulder
at release is a near impossible task, as you need to time it at the exact
right moment. if you time it too early, you will lose power from an early
release. If you time it late, the clubhead will never close in time and
you will have some sort of push / fade / slice. Theres probably a billion
other things that can go wrong when you start consciously thinking about
your shoulders at release point instead of how you are releasing with your
right arm and right hand to create a good path to the ball and square club
face. Thinking about shoulder rotation needs to before the release point,
after the hips, and after the torso.?
I’m not sure but ,if anyone else needs to find out about improve your golf
swing try Barkola Amazing Golf Blueprint (do a google search ) ? Ive heard
some awesome things about it and my mate got great success with it. ?
Surely the slowing of the right shoulder is a reaction to a correct swing
not an action. You think these guys are thinking about the exact amount
their left shoulder needs to slow down? Cant be can it.?
Hi Clay, I tend to HOOK the ball and never really compress the ball. I
tend to sweep the ball. How do I know when I’m doing the lag drills
correctly? What’s the indicators that states I’m on the right path? ?
hi, i got this problem where when im aout to hit the ball i push my hips
forward and affects the swing. please help me solve this! :)?
How do you explain this video of Hogan in relation to the idea “releasing
the right arm and stalling the right shoulder” Ben Hogan?
Good stuff Clay, but do I note you haven’t rotated the hips much when you
emphasize the shoulder action? Are you coming around a bit? No pun
intended Cheers.?
When did bubba watson become right handed?
There are two things that I would look out for when trying to avoid a hook.
1. It is very difficult to hook unless your path is to the right. With a
path of 10* to the right and a square face, you will hook the ball
severely. With a square path and the same square face, the ball will fly
dead straight. So with a similar amount of release you can have a straight
shot or a hook. 2. A strong grip. If your grip is too strong any amount of
release will cause a hook. I hope this helps. ~Clay Ballard
Thanks gabriele salvadori!! ~Clay Ballard
Thank you! I appreciate that! ~Clay Ballard
Best Tip On Youtube!
great
The only danger in releasing is hooking the ball.
The reverse Bubba Watson is a trip.
thanks Chunk
After watching this video i went to the range and practiced this technique
and then played 18. You really helped my swing and full game! As someone
never having any practice this instructional was awesome! SUBSCRIBED!!!!