Not easy to increase spin loft and keep it at 135 Bryan, but it could be
done with more speed and a touch added loft. Ball more forward and you’ve
really got to hit it. Keep in mind it will go higher too…
instead of delofting why not just use a lower number iron?? Obviously the
less angle of loft the more compression on ball hense why driver’s are 7.5
deg. to whatever,yet on a pitching wedge there will be less compression and
more spin which is what u want for sticking a green.
As long as you keep the clubhead close to the ground that visual should
work well David….
Should you have taken a divot?
So am I, they is when I tried to do this reduce my spinloft my swingpath
was getting to much in to out and if I swing like that and close a face
just a bit to much relative to the path I am pretty much screwed. How can I
reduce my angle of attack withouth having to swing to much in to out? DO
you have access to Tiger’s trackman numbers? It looks to me that Tiger has
a pretty steep angle of attack when he is trying to hit his stinger and
very little dynamic loft is this true?
Sorry – this is wrong….you can shallow the attack angle and lower the
dynamic loft. It only feels like you compress the ball. If your numbers are
correct then your spin loft is around 27 degrees. PGATour average spin loft
is around 24-25…You may hit the ball a long way with club speed, but
you’re not very efficient.
If the club head naturally is on an arc, what kind of adjustments are you
making to try to shallow out the bottom of that arc and how consistently
can you do that? It seems either the arms have to shorten to compensate or
the body in some way (knees or spine angle for example) must do so. Can you
explain what is happening mechanically?
The spin loft should not be above 48° to keep the maximum of spin on the
ball, if You have more than 48° the amount of RPM is decreasing and the
ball is just flying higher with a more vertical landing angle making the
ball stop. The harder You hit the ball the more spin and height it will
create. Do remember that 48° is maximum spin loft for good spin anything
above that is decreasing the amount of RPMs. Good Luck. Henrik L Sweden
Good advice
Yes Andrew, I will be at the PGA Show. I will be flying in to Orlando on
the 18th and leaving on the 1st of February. Let´s get together and chat
about wedges and Trackman values. Looking forward to it:-)
“Me and Hogan, me and Hogan, down the line longer than anyone. 22
inches…22inches down the line. Nobody longer…except maybe Trevino. Me,
Hogan and Trevino, nobody down the line like us.” – Moe Norman
Hi Henrik, My # is (843)247-4688 and I am on Twitter @andrewricegolf.
Please shoot me a note as I would love to catch up in Orlando. I will be at
TrackMan U tomorrow and at the Show through Friday…. Andrew
Excellent instruction. Thanks.
lol nice skull
Another great video. 1 question for ya. Say my stock pitching wedge is 135
yards, how should I go about hitting a 135 shot with more spin? If I
increase spin loft with the P wedge won’t I come up short of my 135?
Top notch Andrew.
Cameron – the feel of a shot has very little to do with how well the ball
was compressed. A golfer may feel a perfectly centered and flush strike,
but with a spin loft of 35 degrees on a 7 iron the quality strike is not
going to result in much. A centered hit is important – don’t get me wrong,
but the narrowing of the spin loft gap is what results in a piercing (and
proper) ball flight.
Not disputing the roll more/less spin loft holds in enabling more or less
‘compression’ or deformation in the ball. In the 1st 15 seconds of the
video you refer to what we ‘feel’, it’s this feel I’m talking about. Given
two identical and optimal Cog strikes with differing spin lofts, is the
golfer able to differentiate in feel (not flight) based on the difference
in spin loft? Further reverse the equation with same spin lofts but change
the contact location will the player differentiate in feel?
instead of delofting why not just use a lower number iron??
This is an amazing drill, I was hitting the ball a little fat and losing a
lot of height and distance… Now I am feeling like I have the club 2
inches above the ground through impact and I am really compressing it!!!
Exactly correct MJB! Maximum compression occurs at 0 spin loft –
unfortunately 0 spin either so the ball does not fly too well.
I don’t believe a golfer can feel the spin loft of one shot versus another.
They can however feel the difference in what they need to do in order to
alter/improve the spin loft. Am I understanding your point Cameron? Which
one would have more compression? Hit A with a CoG strike with 35 degrees of
spin loft or Hit B with a slight (one dimple) off CoG strike with 30
degrees of spin loft. Answer is Hit B. As Fredrik Tuxen from Trackman says,
“Spin Loft is compression!”
great stuff
Great tip?
thank you
Not easy to increase spin loft and keep it at 135 Bryan, but it could be
done with more speed and a touch added loft. Ball more forward and you’ve
really got to hit it. Keep in mind it will go higher too…
instead of delofting why not just use a lower number iron?? Obviously the
less angle of loft the more compression on ball hense why driver’s are 7.5
deg. to whatever,yet on a pitching wedge there will be less compression and
more spin which is what u want for sticking a green.
As long as you keep the clubhead close to the ground that visual should
work well David….
Should you have taken a divot?
So am I, they is when I tried to do this reduce my spinloft my swingpath
was getting to much in to out and if I swing like that and close a face
just a bit to much relative to the path I am pretty much screwed. How can I
reduce my angle of attack withouth having to swing to much in to out? DO
you have access to Tiger’s trackman numbers? It looks to me that Tiger has
a pretty steep angle of attack when he is trying to hit his stinger and
very little dynamic loft is this true?
Sorry – this is wrong….you can shallow the attack angle and lower the
dynamic loft. It only feels like you compress the ball. If your numbers are
correct then your spin loft is around 27 degrees. PGATour average spin loft
is around 24-25…You may hit the ball a long way with club speed, but
you’re not very efficient.
If the club head naturally is on an arc, what kind of adjustments are you
making to try to shallow out the bottom of that arc and how consistently
can you do that? It seems either the arms have to shorten to compensate or
the body in some way (knees or spine angle for example) must do so. Can you
explain what is happening mechanically?
The spin loft should not be above 48° to keep the maximum of spin on the
ball, if You have more than 48° the amount of RPM is decreasing and the
ball is just flying higher with a more vertical landing angle making the
ball stop. The harder You hit the ball the more spin and height it will
create. Do remember that 48° is maximum spin loft for good spin anything
above that is decreasing the amount of RPMs. Good Luck. Henrik L Sweden
Good advice
Yes Andrew, I will be at the PGA Show. I will be flying in to Orlando on
the 18th and leaving on the 1st of February. Let´s get together and chat
about wedges and Trackman values. Looking forward to it:-)
“Me and Hogan, me and Hogan, down the line longer than anyone. 22
inches…22inches down the line. Nobody longer…except maybe Trevino. Me,
Hogan and Trevino, nobody down the line like us.” – Moe Norman
Hi Henrik, My # is (843)247-4688 and I am on Twitter @andrewricegolf.
Please shoot me a note as I would love to catch up in Orlando. I will be at
TrackMan U tomorrow and at the Show through Friday…. Andrew
Excellent instruction. Thanks.
lol nice skull
Another great video. 1 question for ya. Say my stock pitching wedge is 135
yards, how should I go about hitting a 135 shot with more spin? If I
increase spin loft with the P wedge won’t I come up short of my 135?
Top notch Andrew.
Cameron – the feel of a shot has very little to do with how well the ball
was compressed. A golfer may feel a perfectly centered and flush strike,
but with a spin loft of 35 degrees on a 7 iron the quality strike is not
going to result in much. A centered hit is important – don’t get me wrong,
but the narrowing of the spin loft gap is what results in a piercing (and
proper) ball flight.
Not disputing the roll more/less spin loft holds in enabling more or less
‘compression’ or deformation in the ball. In the 1st 15 seconds of the
video you refer to what we ‘feel’, it’s this feel I’m talking about. Given
two identical and optimal Cog strikes with differing spin lofts, is the
golfer able to differentiate in feel (not flight) based on the difference
in spin loft? Further reverse the equation with same spin lofts but change
the contact location will the player differentiate in feel?
instead of delofting why not just use a lower number iron??
This is an amazing drill, I was hitting the ball a little fat and losing a
lot of height and distance… Now I am feeling like I have the club 2
inches above the ground through impact and I am really compressing it!!!
Exactly correct MJB! Maximum compression occurs at 0 spin loft –
unfortunately 0 spin either so the ball does not fly too well.
I don’t believe a golfer can feel the spin loft of one shot versus another.
They can however feel the difference in what they need to do in order to
alter/improve the spin loft. Am I understanding your point Cameron? Which
one would have more compression? Hit A with a CoG strike with 35 degrees of
spin loft or Hit B with a slight (one dimple) off CoG strike with 30
degrees of spin loft. Answer is Hit B. As Fredrik Tuxen from Trackman says,
“Spin Loft is compression!”